CBS Republican debate transcript – part 3

CBS News Republican Presidential Debate Transcript

Rushed Partial Transcript: Part Three

FEBRUARY 13, 2016
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:29:56:00 Very quickly, 30-second follow-up. You– you’ve said you would– that essentially, the Kurds would be the American ground forces in there. The– the– the criticism, the– the experts have on that is that the Kurds only can work within their territory. If they take larger amounts of territory, you have an ethnic war with the Arabs. So the Kur– the Kurds can’t really do as much, as you seem to be putting on– on their back–
SEN. TED CRUZ:
09:30:14:00 Look, we have Kurds in both Iraq and Syria. They are fighting ISIS right now. They are winning victories right now. ISIS is using American military equipment they seized in Iraq, and the Obama administration refuses to arm the Kurds, the Peshmerga, the fighting forces who have been long-time allies.

09:30:30:00 We oughta be arming them and letting them fight. Now, if we need to embed special forces to direct our overwhelming air power, if– if it is required to use ground troops to defeat ISIS, we should use them, but we oughta start with using our incredible air power advantage. The first Persian Gulf War, we launched 1,100 air attacks a day. Today, we’re launching between 15 and 30. We’re not using the tools we have (BELL) and it’s because the commander in chief is not focused on defeating the enemy.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:30:58:00 All right, Mr. Trump, (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) on Monday, George W. Bush will campaign in South Carolina for his brother. As you said tonight, and you’ve often said, the Iraq War and your opposition to it was a sign of your good judgment. In 2008, you did an interview with Wolf Blitzer talking about President George W. Bush’s conduct through the war.

09:31:18:00 You said you were surprised the Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi didn’t try to impeach him. You said, quote, “Which personally, I think would have been a wonderful thing”– close quote. When you were asked what you meant by that, you said, “For the war, for the war. He lied, he got us into the war with lies.” Do you still believe should be impeached– should’ve been impeached–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:31:37:00 First of all, I have to say, as a businessman, I get along with everybody. I have business all over the world. (AUDIENCE REACTION) I know so many of the people in the audience. And by the way, I’m a self-funder. I don’t have– I have my wife and I have my sons. (CHEERING) That’s all I have. I don’t have this. So– let me just tell you, I get along with everybody, which is my obligation to my company, to myself, et cetera. Obviously– the war in Iraq was a big, fat mistake, all right?

09:32:07:00 Now, you can take it any way you want. And it took j– (APPLAUSE) it took Jeb Bush, if you remember at the beginning of his announcement, when he announced for president, took him five days, he went back, “It was a mistake, it wasn’t a mistake.” Took him five days before his people told him what to say. And he ultimately said, “It was a mistake.” The war in Iraq, we spent $2 trillion, thousands of lives, we don’t even have it.

09:32:31:00 Iran is taking over Iraq with the second-largest oil reserves in the world. Obviously it was a mistake. So George Bush made a mistake. We can make mistakes. But that one was a beauty. We shoulda never been in Iraq. We have destabilized–
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:32:44:00 All right.
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:32:45:00 –the Middle East.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:32:46:00 But tell you– so, I mean, let’s–
09:32:48:00 (OVERTALK)
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:32:48:00 –you said yourself that he should be impeached.
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:32:48:00 I think it’s my turn, isn’t it?
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:32:50:00 You do whatever you want. You call it whatever you want. I wanna tell you. They lied.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:32:53:00 Okay.
Mr. Donald Trump:
09:32:54:00 They said there were weapons of mass destruction. There were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction. (BOOING)
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:33:02:00 Okay, all right– (BELL) (AUDIENCE REACTION) when a member on the stage’s brother gets attacked–
09:33:08:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:33:08:00 I got that five or six– I get to do it five or six times or just once–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:33:11:00 I’m being nice (UNINTEL PHRASE).
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:33:12:00 So here’s the deal. I’m sick and tired of Barack Obama blaming my brother for all of the problems that he’s had. (APPLAUSE) (CHEERING) And frankly, I could– I could care less about the insults that Donald Trump gives to me. It’s blood sport for him, he enjoys it, and I’m glad he’s happy about it. But I am sick and tired–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:33:31:00 We’ve spent 22–
09:33:32:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:33:32:00 I am sick and tired of him going after my family. My dad is the greatest man alive in my mind. (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) While– while Donald Trump was building a reality TV show, my brother was building a security apparatus to keep us safe. And I’m proud of what he did. (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) He had the gall to go–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:33:55:00 The World Trade Center came down–
09:33:56:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:34:01:00 (BOOING) He’s had the gall to go after my mother.
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:34:03:00 Let’s not keep it–
09:34:03:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:34:03:00 Look, I won the lottery when I was born 63 years ago and looked up and I saw my mom. Mom– my mom is the strongest woman I know.
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:34:09:00 She should be running —
09:34:10:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:34:10:00 But this is not about my family or his family.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:34:12:00 Okay.
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:34:12:00 This is about the South Carolina families that need someone to be a commander in chief that can lead.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:34:17:00 Governor–
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:34:18:00 I’m that person.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:34:18:00 Governor Kasich would you weigh in on– (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) Governor Kasich, please weigh in.
GOV. JOHN KASICH:
09:34:26:00 I gotta tell you, this is just crazy, huh? This is just nuts, okay? (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) Please, oh man. I’m sorry John.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:34:36:00 Weigh in. Why is it nuts? Talk about it. Give us your sense of–
GOV. JOHN KASICH:
09:34:40:00 Oh, well listen, I think– being in Iraq, look, we thought there were weapons of mass destruction. Colin Powell, who is one of the most distinguished generals in modern times said there were weapons there. (APPLAUSE) But– but, the fact is, we got ourselves in the middle of the civil war. The Sunni, the Shia, and the Kurds never got along.

09:34:58:00 In fact, that country was drawn, the borders of that country were– were drawn after World War I by Westerners that didn’t understand what was happening there. The– the tragedy of it is that we’re still embroiled. And frankly, if there weren’t mass– weapons of mass destruction, we should never have gone. I don’t believe that the United States should involve itself in civil wars.

09:35:18:00 Civil wars are not in our direct interest. And if you– and look, I served on the defense committee for 18 years and was called into the Pentagon after 9/11 by Secretary Rumsfeld to deal with some of the most serious problems that we faced. (BELL)

09:35:31:00 The fact is, is that we should go to war when it is our direct interest, we should not be policemen of the war– of the world. But when we go, we mean business, we’ll do our job, we’ll tell our soldiers, our people in the service, “Take care of your job, and then come home (BELL) once we’ve accomplished our goals.
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:35:46:00 That’s– that’s what we need to do. (APPLAUSE) (CHEERING)
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:35:48:00 Thirty– 30 seconds
, senator.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO:
09:35:50:00 I just wanna say, at least on behalf of me and my family, I thank God all the time that it was George W. Bush in the White House on 9/11 and not Al Gore. (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) And you can– I think you can look back in hindsight and say a couple things, but he kept us safe. And not only did he keep us safe, but he– no matter what you wanna say about weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein was in violation of U.N. resolutions, in open violation, and the world wouldn’t do anything about it. And George W. Bush, enforced what the international community, refused to do, and again he kept us safe. And I am forever grateful to what he did for this–
09:36:29:00 (OVERTALK)
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:36:29:00 How did he keep us safe when the World Trade Center (UNINTEL)? (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE) The World– I lost hundreds of friends. The World Trade Center came down (BOOING) during the reign. He kept us safe? That’s not safe. That is not safe (UNINTEL).
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:36:47:00 All right.
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:36:47:00 That is not safe. The World Trade Center–
SEN. MARCO RUBIO:
09:36:49:00 The World Trade Center came down because Bill Clinton Osama bin Laden when he had the chance to kill him.
09:36:54:00 (OVERTALK)
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:36:58:00 By the way, George Bush had the (UNINTEL PHRASE) and he didn’t listen to the advice of his C.I.A.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:37:06:00 All right, Dr.Carson, we have–
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:37:07:00 Can I just–
09:37:08:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:37:08:00 I’m not gonna invite Donald Trump to the rally in Charleston on Monday afternoon–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:37:12:00 I don’t wanna go.
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:37:13:00 –but he’s coming to speak. (LAUGHTER) I’m rescinding the invitation. I thought you might wanna come, but I guess not.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:37:18:00 All right, well, Dr.Carson, I’ve got a question now for you. G– a moment of pause here. You’ve said, Dr.Carson, that– that referring to yourself, that people bought into the idea that quote, a “nice person can’t be tough on terrorists.” You’ve called for loosening the rules of engagement for the military. Which could lead to more civilian casualties. So explain why those casualties would be acceptacle– acceptable in the fight against ISIS.
DR.BEN CARSON:
09:37:43:00 Well, first of all, let me just– address the Iraq question. You know, I was not particularly in favor of– us going to war in Iraq, primarily because I– I’ve studied, you know, the Middle East, recognizing that those are nations that are ruled by dictators, and have been for thousands of years.

09:38:05:00 And when you go in and you remove one of those dictators, unless you have an appropriate plan for replacing them, you’re gonna have chaos. Now fortunately, we were able to stabilize the situation. And it was the– the current administration that turned tail and ran and destabilized the situation. (CHEERING) (APPLAUSE)

09:38:24:00 Now, having said that, in terms of the rules of engagement, I was talking about, you know, Obama has said, you know, we shouldn’t bomb tankers, you know, coming out of refineries because there may be people in there or because the environment may be hurt. You know, that’s just asinine thinking. And the fact of the matter is, (CHEERING) you know, we– obviously you’re not going to accomplish all of (BELL) your goals without some collateral damage. You have to be able to assess what is acceptable and what is not.
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:38:56:00 All right, thank you Dr.Carson. (AUDIENCE REACTION) We’re gonna have to take a commercial break. (UNINTEL) thank you to all the candidates, we’ll be right back with CBS News’s 2016 Debate from Greenville, South Carolina. (APPLAUSE)
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:39:07:00 The Iran deal, it’s one of the worst deals I’ve ever seen negotiated in my entire life. It’s a disgrace.
SEN. MARCO RUBIO:
09:39:12:00 The constitution is not a living and breathing document. It is to be interpreted as originally meant.
GOV. JEB BUSH:
09:39:16:00 We need to destroy ISIS and dispose of Assad. (MUSIC) (LONG PAUSE)
ANNOUNCER:
09:42:14:00 We’re back with the Republicans who would be president. The topic now is money and how the candidates would spend it. So we’re gonna (UNINTEL) over to Kimberly Strassel of The Wall Street Journal and Major Garrett of CBS News. Kim?
KIMBERLY STRASSEL:
09:42:26:00 Mr. Trump.
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:42:26:00 Yes. You have– made a lot of promises– and you have also– you’re the only candidate who has said he would not touch entitlements. The Committee for Responsible Federal Budget has estimated that your ideas would cost an additional $12 to $15 trillion over the next 10 years, and that we would have to have annual economic growth of anywhere from 7.7% to 9% annually to pay for this. Are– are you proposing more than you can actually deliver? At least not without–
09:43:00:00 (MR. DONALD TRUMP: UNINTEL)
KIMBERLY STRASSEL:
09:42:59:00 –big deficits?
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:43:02:00 First of all, the– when you said the only candidate, if you listen to the Democrats they wanna do many things to Social Security. And I wanna do ’em on its own merits. You listen to them, what they wanna do to Social Security, none of these folks are getting elected. Okay? Whether they can do it or not. I’m going to save Social Security.

09:43:20:00 I’m goin’ to bring jobs back from China. I’m gonna bring jobs back from Mexico and from Japan where they’re all– every country throughout the world– now Vietnam, that’s the new one. They are taking our jobs. They’re takin’ our wealth. They’re takin’ our base (?). And you and I have had this discussion. We’re going to make our economy strong again. I’m lowering taxes.

09:43:39:00 We have $2.2 trillion offshore. We have $2.2 trillion that I think is actually $5 trillion because the government has no idea when they say $2.5. They have no idea what they’re doing or saying, as they’ve proven very well. We’re gonna bring that money back.

09:43:51:00 You take a look at what happened just this week. China bought the Chicago Stock Exchange. China. A Chinese company. Carrier is moving to Mexico. Air conditioning company. Not only the ones I talk about all the time, Nabisco and Ford and– they’re all moving out. We have an economy that last quarter (BEEPING) GDP didn’t grow. It was flat. We have to make our economy grow again. We’re dying. This country is dying. And our workers are losing their jobs. And you–
09:44:21:00 (OVERTALK)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:44:22:00 But in terms of–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:44:22:00 I’m the only one gonna save Social Security. Believe me.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:44:24:00 Okay, but how would (BEEPING) you actually (APPLAUSE) do that? Can I ask you? Because right now Social Security–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:44:28:00 ‘Cause you have–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:44:29:00 –and Medicare–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:44:30:00 –tremendous waste of (UNINTEL).
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:44:30:00 –they– they take up 2/3 of the budget–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:44:32:00 You have tremendous–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:44:32:00 –and they’re growing–
MR. DONALD TRUMP:
09:44:33:00 –waste, fraud and abuse. That we’re takin’ care of. (WHISTLE) That we’re taking care of. It’s tremendous. (APPLAUSE) We have in Social Security right now thousands and thousands of people that are over 106 years old. Now, you know they don’t exist. They don’t exist.

09:44:49:00 There’s tremendous waste, fraud and abuse and we’re gonna get it. But we’re not gonna hurt the people who’ve been paying into Social Security their whole life and then all of a sudden they’re supposed to get less. We’re bringing our jobs back. We’re gonna make our economy great again.
FEGOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:45:03:00 Senator Cruz. (CHEERING) John (?) mentioned this is about dollars and cents. We also wanna talk about economic growth and wage growth. You have proposed a consumption tax. You call it a flat tax. Some analysts compare it more akin to a value added tax. From a perspective of economic growth and building wages, how does that work?

09:45:21:00 And how would you address the long standing conservative concern that something approaching a value-added tax will be used to constantly increase those rates to pay for future government spending and become an escalator of taxation, not of growth.
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX):
09:45:35:00 Well, let me say at the outset that everyone here understands, everyone understands at home, that the middle class has been left behind in the last seven years of the Obama economy. And we’ve gotta bring jobs back. We’ve gotta get people out– back to work. We’ve gotta get wages going up again. We’ve gotta get people moving from part-time work to full-time work.

09:45:55:00 We all agree on that, but it’s not gonna be solved with magic pixie dust. It’s not just gonna be solved by declaring into the air, “Let there be jobs.” We actually have to understand the principles that made America great in the first place.

09:46:09:00 Now, where do you get economic growth? If you look at cause and effect over our nation’s history, every time we lessen the burden of Washington on small business owners, on job creators, we see incredible economic growth. You do that through tax reform and regulatory reform.

09:46:24:00 My tax plan, typical family of four. First $36,000 you earn you pay nothing in taxes. No income taxes. No payroll taxes. No nothing. Above 10% everyone pays the same simple flat 10% income rate. It’s flat and fair. You can fill out your taxes on a (BEEPING) postcard and we abolish the I.R.S. And if you wanna see the postcard, I’ve got it on– on my website. (APPLAUSE)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:46:48:00 Right. But to the question– because conservatives have floated with this idea conceptually for a long time. But especially on this consumption value-added tax system, in Europe, where it exists, it has become an escalator of taxation to feed government spending. And that’s why conservatives have long resisted it. Why– and what would you do as president to make sure that doesn’t happen?
SEN. TED CRUZ (R-TX):
09:47:08:00 Well, Major, the– the business flat tax that is in my tax plan is– is not a VAT. A VAT in Europe is a sales tax. The business flat tax is not a sales tax. It is a tax of 16% imposed fairly and evenly across the board on all businesses.

09:47:24:00 And one of the things that’s critical is we’re doing that in conjunction with abolishing the corporate income tax. With abolishing the Obamacare taxes. With abolishing the payroll taxes, which are the biggest taxes paid by most working Americans. And with abolishing the death tax, which is cruel and unfair.

09:47:41:00 And you asked about economic growth. The Non-Partisan Tax Foundation estimated that the (BEEPING) Cruz simple flat tax would produce $4.9 million new jobs, would increase capital investment by 44% and would lift (BEEPING) everyone’s incomes by double digits. That’s how you turn the country around. Not just hoping and praying for it, but implementing policies that work–
KIMBERLY STRASSEL:
09:48:03:00 Okay. I have a question– (APPLAUSE) a related tax question, for Senator Rubio. Senator Rubio, you have the highest tax rates of anyone up on the stage, in terms of the top tax rates. 35%. Which some economists say would limit its potential to boost economic growth.

09:48:20:00 You do that so that you will have more revenue to pay for a tripling of the child tax credits. Normally it’s liberals who like to use the tax code to influence social policy. Why should conservatives want a tax plan that adopts the other side’s approach?
SEN. MARCO RUBIO (R-FL):
09:48:35:00 Well, because I’m not influencing social policy. This is their money. This is the money of parents. You don’t earn the tax credit unless you’re working. That’s your money. It doesn’t belong to the government. And here’s what I don’t understand.

09:48:45:00 If a business takes their money and they invest it in a piece of equipment, they get to write it off their taxes. But if a parent takes money that they have earned through work, and invests it in their children, they don’t? This makes no sense. Parenting is the most important job any of us will ever have. Family formation (CHEERING) is the most important institution in society.

09:49:04:00 And so what my tax plan does is it does create, especially for working families, an additional child tax credit so that parents who are working get to keep more of their own money, not the government’s money, to invest in their children. To go to school. To go to a private school. To buy a new backpack.

09:49:19:00 Because, let me tell you, if you’re a parent that’s struggling, you know that $50 a month is the difference between a new pair of shoes this month or not getting a new pair of shoes for your kids. I’m gonna have a tax plan that is pro-family because the family is the most important institution in society. You cannot have a strong country without strong families. (CHEERING)
KIMBERLY STRASSEL:
09:49:40:00 Governor Kasich. Governor Kasich, this goes to– the size of gover– government. In 2013 you pushed through a Medicaid reform in your state, over the objections of many of the Republicans in your state. Total enrollment and overall costs of that program have– gone well beyond what anyone had expected, including yourself. How can you argue that this overall growth fits in with conservative ambitions to significantly cut back on the size of federal welfare programs–?
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:50:09:00 Sure. Well, first of all, those numbers are incorrect. (CLEARS THROAT) We– our– our Medicaid programs are coming in below cost estimates, and our Medicaid program in the second year grew at 2.5%. And– Kimberly, let me tell you, when we expand Medicaid and we treat the mentally ill, and they don’t live under a bridge or live in a prison, where they cost $22,500 a year.

09:50:30:00 When we take the drug addicted and we treat them in the prisons we stop the revolving door of people in and out of prisons and we save $22,000– $22,500 a year. Guess what else? They get their lives back.
09:50:43:00 And the working poor? They’re not getting healthcare. And you know that about a third of the people who are now getting that healthcare are people who are suffering very serious illnesses, particularly cancer.

09:50:55:00 So what I would tell you is we’ve gone from an $8 billion hole to a $2 billion surplus. We’ve cut taxes by more than any governor in America by $5 billion. We have grown in the number of jobs by 400,000 private sector jobs since I’ve been governor. Our credit is strong. Our pensions are strong.

09:51:14:00 And, frankly, we leave no one behind. Economic growth is not an end into itself. We want everyone to rise (BEEPING) and we will make them personally responsible for the help that they get. And that is exactly the program we’re driving in Ohio. And boy, people oughta look at Ohio ’cause it’s got the good formula–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:51:30:00 Governor Bush, I’ve got a–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:51:31:00 Yes. (CHEERING)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:51:31:00 –question for you, but if you wanna jump in–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:51:32:00 I’d like to–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:51:32:00 –please.
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:51:33:00 Can I– can I– (CHEERING)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:51:34:00 Jump in and then I’ve got a question for you.
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:51:35:00 Look, I admire the fact that Governor Kasich is supporting spending more money on drug treatment and mental health. I think that’s a high priority all across this country. (CHEER) But expanding Obamacare is what we’re talkin’ about. And Obamacare’s expansion, even though the federal government is paying for the great majority of it, is creating further debt on the backs of our children and grandchildren.

09:51:55:00 We should be fighting Obamacare. Repealing Obamacare. Replacing it with something totally different. (APPLAUSE) When I was– as a private citizen, Florida was confronted with this choice. The governor was supportive of doing what John did. So was the Florida Senate.

09:52:09:00 A committed speaker of the House asked me to go as a private citizen to co– to make the case against the expansion. (BEEPING) I did. And it wasn’t expanded there, just as it wasn’t expanded in South Carolina under Governor–
09:52:20:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:52:20:00 –Haley.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:52:21:00 Real quickly.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:52:21:00 No–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:52:21:00 Jump in. (CHEERING)
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:52:23:00 No–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:52:22:00 ’cause I got a question for–
09:52:23:00 (OVERTALK)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:52:23:00 –Governor Bush. But jump in.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:52:24:00 First of all, when Jeb was governor, her– his first four years (LAUGH) as governor, he expand– his Medicaid program grew twice as fast as mine. Okay? It’s just a fact. Now, with Obamacare, I’ve not only sued the administration, I did not set up an exchange. And he knows that I’m not (CHUCKLE) pro-Obamacare. Never have been.

09:52:41:00 But here’s interesting about Medicaid. You know who expanded Medicaid five times to try to help the folks and give them opportunity so they could rise and get a job? President Ronald Reagan. So the fact of the matter is we expanded to get people on their feet. And once they’re on their feet, we are– we are giving them the training and the efforts that they need to be able to–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:01:00 Understood–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:01:00 –get work–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:02:00 –Governor Kasich.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:03:00 –to get work and pull out of that (BEEPING) situation.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:04:00 And so–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:04:00 Back to–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:05:00 –that’s what worked —
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:05:00 –Governor Bush–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:05:00 –in– in our state.
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:06:00 South Carolinians need to know this because the the Cato Institute, which grades governors based on their spending, rake him– rank him right at the bottom–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:12:00 (UNINTEL) Governor Bush, fine. And we–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:15:00 And Governor Haley–
09:53:15:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:15:00 –is ranked at the top.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:16:00 Let me get a question to you–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:17:00 So if you–
09:53:17:00 (OVERTALK)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:17:00 –on this– I understand. I understand.
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:18:00 No, let me finish–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:18:00 But no–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:18:00 –though. Hey, wait, wait, wait.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:20:00 This is important–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:20:00 Hold on, Major. Hold on, Major.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:21:00 I just (UNINTEL)–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:22:00 South Carolinians–
09:53:21:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:22:00 –wanna make sure that they elect the most–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:24:00 He–
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:53:24:00 –conservative governor or candidate that can win.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:27:00 Let me– let me–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:28:00 I’d like to–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:28:00 Let me tell ya–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:29:00 Get (UNINTEL) question on–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:30:00 They–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:30:00 –economic growth, Governor Bush. (CHEERING)
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:31:00 Major. We can’t– we gotta– look, I gotta correct the record. And the fact of the matter is we went from an $8 billion hole to a $2 billion surplus. We’re up 400,000 jobs. Our credit is rock solid. And I don’t know– look, the–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:44:00 The (UNINTEL) with me–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:44:00 –bottom line is–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:45:00 –governor.
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:44:00 –the people of this– of this country and this state want to see everybody rise and they wanna see unity. And I don’t wanna get into all this fighting tonight–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:53:00 I know.
09:53:53:00 (OVERTALK)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:54:00 Understood.
09:53:55:00 (GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH): UNINTEL)
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:54:00 Governor Bush–
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:55:00 –sick of the negative campaigning. (APPLAUSE) And I’m gonna stay positive about what I wanna–
09:53:58:00 (OVERTALK)
GOV. JOHN KASICH (R-OH):
09:53:58:00 –do (UNINTEL PHRASE)–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:53:58:00 From the perspective of economic growth. (APPLAUSE) Viewed from the perspective of economic growth you have proposed a tax on hedge fund managers. The Americans for Tax Reform, a conservative tax group you’re probably aware of, has said, “No Republican should be for higher taxes on capital gains.”

09:54:17:00 And many conservatives wonder if this proposal of yours would undermine not only that philosophy but undercut your projection of 4% economic growth annually under your presidency.
GOV. JEB BUSH (R-FL):
09:54:26:00 Of course not. It won’t– have an impact on hedge fund managers paying ordinary– income. In fact it’s– it’s not just hedge fund people but people that are doing– they’re in the business of investing other people’s money. Getting capital gains treatment is not pro– not appropriate.

09:54:42:00 They should be paying ordinary income. That’s their business. They’re grateful to be able to make a lot of money. I’m sure. And what we do is lower the rates. It’s not– it’s not the end of the world that private equity people and hedge fund pep– folks that are– right now getting capital grains treatment for the income they earn pay ordinary income like everybody else in this room. That’s not a problem at all.

09:55:00:00 What we need to do is to reform the tax code to simplify the rates to shift power away from Washington, D.C. And that’s what I did as governor of the state of Florida. $19 billion of tax cuts. And it stimulated– seven out of the eight years Florida led the nation in job growth.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:55:14:00 Very good. (CHEERING) Doc– Dr. Carson. Before we go to break, would you give us your sense of this conversation about either Medicaid or economic growth through taxation?
DR. BEN CARSON:
09:55:25:00 Well, first of all, let me just mention– on the tax issue. BenCarson.com. Go read about it. Because– my tax plan has been– praised by Cato, by Wall Street Journal. Forbes said it is the best, the most pro-growth tax plan. And it’s based on real fairness for everybody.

09:55:44:00 Starts at the– 150% poverty level. But even the people below that have to pay something, because everybody has to have skin in the game. And– millions of people can’t, (APPLAUSE) you know, talk about what other people have to say and have no skin in the game. And– it deals with the corporate tax rate. It makes it the same as everybody else. (BEEPING) Everybody pays exactly the same.
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:56:06:00 Doctor–
DR. BEN CARSON:
09:56:07:00 And as far as Medicare and Medicaid, my main goal is to get rid of Obamacare and put the care back in the hands of–
MAJOR GARRETT:
09:56:13:00 All right–
DR. BEN CARSON:
09:56:13:00 –patients–
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:56:14:00 All right. Doctor–
DR. BEN CARSON:
09:56:14:00 –and–
JOHN DICKERSON:
09:56:15:00 –Dr. Carson, I’m sorry. We have to go to a commercial. The free market wants what it wants. (LAUGHTER) Back to the 2016 Republican debate in Greenville, South Carolina. (MUSIC) (APPLAUSE)

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